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    Thumbs down Editors...nicecoder here is what i think about it

    I am a long time dmoz editor, and i know very well the ins and out of the dmoz.

    the editors panel in indexu is primitive and really unusable.... let me explain.

    indexu editors can only approve or delete submissions. the cant edit it, and they cant move it to a more appropriate category for review by other editors. indexu does not have meta editors that can validate links all across the directory tree...so why on earth do we need to use indexu primitive editorial team panel?

    for more see my post here Meta Editors?

    my opinion

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    hmmm...I thought there was a feature to allow the editor to edit the link? There is a php file to do it and an HTML page showing the link to edit.

    as for allowing the editors to edit all the pending links, I think that can be done with a simple change to a function. In the GetEditorCategory function f link.class.php:

    Try changing:
    $query = "select category_id from $this->editor_table_name where username = '$username' and status = 1";
    to
    $query = "select category_id from $this->editor_table_name";
    then in index.php in the cp folder:

    change:
    $links_obj->editor_table_name = "idx_editor";
    to

    $links_obj->editor_table_name = "idx_category";
    I didn't test it so let me know if it works.




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    yeh i think your spot on.. you can edit them..... its right next to the link.

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    Can you move the new entries to a different category to allow review instead of just removing them from the index?

    I will check esm code hack...thanks for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aircut
    Can you move the new entries to a different category to allow review instead of just removing them from the index?
    yep, that is already available in the validation process by clicking the "edit" hyperlink....




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    Did I miss somthing?

    When editor login to :
    http://www.foo.com/indexu/cp/editor_link_validate.php

    He can not move the the entry to a different category nor edit it.

    all he sees is:

    Validate Links
    Cat name - New
    Url: http://www.foo.com
    Description: foo
    Category: foo
    Contact: foofoo
    Email: submitter@someware.com

    [APPROVE][REJECT][RESET]

    help please, I have a team of editors who are ready to work but the pannel doesnot allow them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by esm
    hmmm...I thought there was a feature to allow the editor to edit the link? There is a php file to do it and an HTML page showing the link to edit:

    check Zubby and Your answer to THIS THREAD where you both confirmed that editor can not edit pending links.......

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    there is a feature to allow the editor to edit a link in his category....a link that has already been approved.

    there is no feature in INDEXU for the editor to edit a pending link.

    hope that clears up any confusion.

    I've never had a need to use editors so my knowledge of how INDEXU has implimented this feature is somewhat limited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by esm
    there is a feature to allow the editor to edit a link in his category....a link that has already been approved.

    there is no feature in INDEXU for the editor to edit a pending link.

    hope that clears up any confusion.

    I've never had a need to use editors so my knowledge of how INDEXU has implemented this feature is somewhat limited.
    so now that we are at the same line. to offer an editor to edit pending links mod, would you be prepare to create one and what will be the cost if any.

    the preferred mode will allow the editor to edit the link description.
    if he decided that the categories that the link was entered are wrong, but the entry still a valid site that has to be included in the directory, changing the category, would invoke a new email notice to the 'other category editor'...

    the use of reject option would be reserved to spam sites or site that are not relevant to the directory general topic.....

    also, you might consider changing the permissions of an editor. an editor of category foo will have editing permission of all the sub categories.... this will allow experienced editors to monitor and change activities that are being done by newbie editors who hold responsibilities editing a deep branch of the directory......

    no need to say that the success of sites using INDEXU as directory engine is solely dictated by the quality of the directory entries. Having 200 categories and many incoming submit to the site, require a team of editors to make sure that each entry is proofed and is according to the directory guidelines.....

    i hope i made my point clear. I would really like to see this feature, and I am sure other users of mega sites that are or will using INDEXU to run their projects will benefit from it.

    please sticky me if you prefer to continue the dialog off the public forums.

    thank you
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    I think zubby did the editor edit hack.

    I understand that this may be a very important feature to you but I just released v3.2E and am pretty busy right now.

    If I saw any benefit for the general INDEXU user, I might consider looking into this for you. But in my 6 years of working with links type sites, I don't recall any that every used editors. That is not to say that they don't exist but I just haven't come across them.

    It is just my opinion but it would take quite a large number of daily submissions every day to require different editors and most link sites just don't get that kind of new submissions. But your site may and that is great. But I suspect that better than 99% of all INDEXU sites really don't need editors. (and getting quality editors that you can trust might also be a problems but that is a different issue).

    I just do not have the time right now to learn the editor features and the underlying code and fix any bugs (if they exist) and then modify the feature set to add additional functionality. And since I think it is just not used, I doubt that I will ever have much interest in the Editor feature. But I will try to answer any specific PHP coding question.

    Maybe zubby would be willing to help. or there are some other INDEXU coders .
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    Quote Originally Posted by esm
    I think zubby did the editor edit hack.

    I just do not have the time right now <snip> But I will try to answer any specific PHP coding question.

    Maybe zubby would be willing to help. or there are some other INDEXU coders .
    understand.
    Zubby hack works fine. for editing pending links. thank you Zubby.

    Indexu IS YOUR product and i am only one customer.....

    can you please address the following bugs...

    1. Search/Edit/Remove Links [editor_link_search.php] brings up no result. not from the pending links and not from the approved links.

    2. Write/Edit/Delete Official Review is linked to the same file as 1. thus not operational

    3. Validate Reviews - non is showing [the admin pannel show that there are pending reviews....] editor can not validate the reviews....

    4. Validate Reviews - just tried.... it generated me an email with a text

    "
    This report has been added in your administrator area.
    You can modify or delete this link or delete this report at

    <%site_url%>/admin/link_bad.php3"

    but i could not see any from the editor link.

    for a better IndexU
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aircut
    Indexu IS YOUR product and i am only one customer.....
    Just a note of clarification. I do not own INDEXU; I am just an authorized re-seller and have an agreement with the owner, dody, to market an enhanced version.

    While I do try to help folks with INDEXU, due to the time requirements, this is an issue that needs to be addressed by dody. And as I understand it, Zubby is also a co-developer of INDEXU and may also be able to help.
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    thanks for the clarification. Zubby are you willing to help making the editor panel functional?

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    it does not work

    error:
    Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in lib/link.class.php on line 2335

    Quote Originally Posted by esm
    hmmm...I thought there was a feature to allow the editor to edit the link? There is a php file to do it and an HTML page showing the link to edit.

    as for allowing the editors to edit all the pending links, I think that can be done with a simple change to a function. In the GetEditorCategory function f link.class.php:

    Try changing:

    to


    then in index.php in the cp folder:

    change:

    to



    I didn't test it so let me know if it works.





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    I tested it and it works as shown.

    Try re-doing it.
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