Search Engine Friendly URLs - redux

[esm]

Lest anyone still cares about search engine friendly URLs, I have developed a completely different way of doing them:

for a demo see: http://indexuhelp.com/upload/index.php

categories and sub-categories show as
http://www.indexuhelp.com/link_coder/computing-and-internet.html

pagination shows as
http://www.indexuhelp.com/link_coder/computing-and-internet-3.html

individual links show as
http://www.indexuhelp.com/link_coder/search-engine-institute.html

• It can be used with almost any LINKs software on the market. i.e, earlier verions of of INDEXU and probably even the lite version
• This mehtod will NOW handles duplicate names - links or cats.
• It does use the mod_rewrite feature.
• While I don't think it is a difficult MOD, it is not for the novice.
• if you tend to go ballistic over URLs like Frank does, this may not be a MOD you will like

if you would like to test it, send me an email. no PM's ( I cannot empty the PM folder fast enough....! )

you can also see it in use at http://www.indexuhelp.com/link_coder/index.php. This link does not use INDEXU to display the links/categories.

EDITED 4-22-05: this MOD now handles duplicate links and categories.

EDITED 6-06-05: to remove the [ url ] tags from the URLs.

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[Frank71]

Did I hear my name ?
May be guys who won't use the script think it isn't important, but after some years the chance is high to get the same names for categories (sub categories !!! like country1/hotels - country2/hotels) and links and THAN you must think about that again.

Sorry esm, nice that is a present for friends, but as also alladin wrote it will be a problem in future.

Frank

[esm]

chance is high to get the same names for categories (sub categories !!! like country1/hotels - country2/hotels) and links and THAN you must think about that again.
Frank

There you go again, Frank. All you see is a problem, problem, problem WRONG WRONG WRONG while never thinking about a solution. The glass is always half emty for Frank.

Why not change your thinking from WRONG WRONG WRONG to: "OK, esm says it won't do duplicate names. but it is a great feature ( I threw that in for fun ) so how do I overcome that problem. Is it easy to fix? How much work will I have to do? Is it worth the effort."

I have been doing links sites since 1998. I am well aware of duplicates; that is why I mentioned it.

For some sites, duplicate categories/links is not a problem. For others, it may be a major problem. Most will fall somewhere in between.

I did say that it "...does allow for easy manipulation of this issue to minimize the problem." The MOD will automatically create and maintain the URLs for the cats/links. Then it all depends on how many ducplicates exist.

Have a nice day, Frank.



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[Frank71]

OK, esm says it won't do duplicate names. but it is a great feature ( I threw that in for fun ) so how do I overcome that problem. Is it easy to fix? How much work will I have to do? Is it worth the effort.

Sounds stupid, but if you like it
It will be a problem for every indexu user in future, because no one knows which names the link owner chose and no, for non coder it is impossible to fix.
Much easier is to delete "browse" or "detail" in 3.2 url.

Its a forum, you post a mod which is useless in my eyes and I tell people that they should be careful and think about what could be happen...
I thought you are living in big free america ?

Frank

[inspireme]

sounds intresting... I want somethign similar to this that only worked on the detail pages, so users could have a nice short URL (if they dont have a website)

eg. www.domain.com/link_title

I would be intrested to see the code.

[esm]

Frank, it gets real tiring to listen to you whine and complain ALL the time and say how bad things are.

You are just always so negative.

Do you ever say anything positive about anything.

You have earned your title: WRONG WRONG WRONG Frank.

I am not perfect and I don't create perfect MODs.

I did point out in my original post that it did not handle duplicate cats/links. I think that infomation helps any would-be-user perform an initial evaluation if the MOD might be valuable to them.

As far as I am concerned, Frank, you can take your negative personality somewhere else. I am tired of such negativity.



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[esm]

I'll have to look at the code. I guess I could just disable the category portion without too much effort.

I think it would be more like www.domain.com/link-title.html



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[Frank71]

You take money, thats the different, and yes there are good things here.
First indexu - I'm still here because it is the best link software I know.
And second your first posts years ago as I asked Dody to give you the software for free. In this time you did your mods for free and they were great (yeah, you can read it, you did a great job !) and your interest was to do a good job.
Sometime in past this stoped. You started hiding the code, you set enddates in your code so sometime the mods will stop working and your interest stoped to do a good job. Your interest was to sell your solution (do you remember your email where you wrote that you will stop supporting your script soon ?!) and here my problem begins.
Sorry, the only things I can read from your side is "oh, bad bad Frank crys WRONG WRONG WRONG".
Be a nice boy and let me cry, it is a software forum where we discuss bugs, problems, requests and solutions and as you wrote several times it is normal that we find them.
I'm here since august 2002 and I spent a lot of time with indexu, so it is normal that I find a lot of bugs and problems.
For me it is helpful because by example changes in like mod_rewrite, pagination and so on are sometimes not so easy and often users won't see the problems in the first step.
Better discuss them before as later in a runing site.
By example your review pagination, is it a bug, a problem, a feature, I bed it won't work, but I have no idea how can I say it nice so you won't cry again...


inspireme: No idea what you want to do, but why don't you take a simple subdomain script or something similar ?
I didn't search for them yet, but I'm sure you'll find some in different script archivs.

Frank

[esm]

You take money, thats the different, and yes there are good things here.
And second your first posts years ago as I asked Dody to give you the software for free.

I never accepted dody's offer of a "free" copy. Even dody's offer was not for a free copy. I purchased my copy paying the full price.

dody wrote on 05-03-2003 07:59 PM:
Please contact sofiah@sentraweb.com for further assistance ... You may request her a copy of indexu 3.1.
If you're not satisfied and do not use it, you do not need to pay any thing.

I only take money for the sale of v3.2E. Actually, if you register at the forum on my site, you can have access to all the MODs I've done. and it has been that way for some time. I just don't advertise it.

In this time you did your mods for free and they were great (yeah, you can read it, you did a great job !) and your interest was to do a good job.
sometime in past this stoped.

and you are still upset that I would not give them to you free. But I still do things for free. I have given away free copies of v3.2E to several people. I recently did the horizontal MOD for free. I've installed v3.2 free for folks and fixed problems on peoples site for free.

...your interest stoped to do a good job. Your interest was to sell your solution...

I've made 2,139 posts since I started with over 200 since the first of the year not to mention a lot of PM help. Most of the posts were to help folks.

(do you remember your email where you wrote that you will stop supporting your script soon ?!)

Actually, here is what the email said:

(BTW: I WILL STOP SELING V3.2E VERY SOON)
> what do you mean with you'll stop selling 3.2E ???
*** YEP.

and I said the following in this post: http://www.nicecoder.com/community/s...5&page=2&pp=15

( FYI: like v3.2, v3.2E has just about come to an end )

And, as usual, Frank sees the negative in this and says that I will stop supporting v3.2E. Just for the record, I will continue to support v3.2E. Should I ever decide not to support it, I will let those individuals who purchased it know at least a year in advance.

let me cry

Cry all you want to, Frank, just don't do it on my posts.



Frank, I am sure folks are tired of watching us bicker. So let's end it here and now. Hurray!

I won't mention your name and you don't mention my name. I'll ignore what you post and you ignore what I post.

You don't comment about what I post or what others post in response to what I have posted and I'll do the same for you.




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[Frank71]

ok, let us stop, I tried searching the right message, but I can't find it (by the way in past we were the best friends, you was a realy nice boy ):

<I never accepted dody's offer of a "free" copy. Even dody's offer was not for a free <copy. I purchased my copy paying the full price.

- I'm realy sorry for that. I asked Dody to send you a copy for free and i'm 100% sure he answered he did. Never he talked about later payment.

Sorry
Frank

[inspireme]

Yes please stop bickering! anybody would think your married. All the threads I want to read end up the same. I dont know what the problem is, nor do I care.

Frank - the only way what that I can do what i want is using htaccess, otherwise it will not be automatic, AND it wont integrate with indexU.

Im htaccess impared so have no idea about how to do it myself, so I would be intrested in seeing how esm has done this so I can learn and adapt it to do what I want.

[aladdin1]

Hello,

I am so happy, for once I am not involve with an argument, is it a first for me? I am not sure. As for the hack:
Does it works with Indexu 3.2 (with cache)?

[esm]

I am so happy, for once I am not involve with an argument

Lucky you!

As for the hack:
Does it works with Indexu 3.2 (with cache)?

I haven't tried it but based on what I can recall, yes, it will work with the cache of v3.2.

Let me put some instructions together and I'll send those to you to read. Then you will understand how it works to see if it is something that you are interested in...

Actually, I gave a wrong link in the first post ( which I have now corrected ).
see: http://indexuhelp.com/upload/index.php

I will say that I have left the "bread crumbs" hyperlink ( Top > Business to Business > Education ) using the original method. I also did not change any other URLs that might need to conform to the MOD. But they are easy to do. Just a change in HTML code ( and, if needed, a simple change to PHP code )

This site uses an "out-of-the-box" copy of v3.2 - I have made no changes to the code except for this MOD.

It is in no way associated with v3.2E.

Just as a note: the link that I did give http://www.indexuhelp.com/link_coder/index.php does use the MOD and has been for the past few months. It took me about 20 minutes to adapt it to INDEXU.



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[aladdin1]

Hello,

Yes it does make nice looking URL. Let me ask you something. If I was to add a field containing the category hierarchy in idx_category, could this field be add to the URL. Lets be concrete if you do to my site and click on:

Top > Fishing > Bass > Clubs and Associations > United States > Wisconsin

You will have an URL which look like:

http://www.e-gun.com/Fishing/Bass/Cl...tes/Wisconsin/

The same link with your hack would look like:

http://www.e-gun.com/Wisconsin.html

Am I right?
Now if I add a field in idx_category containing:
Fishing/Bass/Clubs_and_Associations/United_States/
Could I add it to your URL

http://www.e-gun.com(NEW FIEL FROM IDX_CATEGORY)/Wisconsin.html

so it would look as it look now.
I have 15000 to 20000 pages indexed in Google, I do not want to loose them.
Does what I write make sense?

[Frank71]

I know I shoudln'd do that, but are you sure what you want to do ?
You have 714 categories ?!

by the way, today you have also different links for your categories:
http://e-gun.com/browse.php?cat=647
If you click on the category path in detail again all links are old dynamic indexu format and THAN all categories in the menus are again old indexu format ?!
At the moment it seems Google don't like your dynamic details sites and so no old category links are indexed, but it will be only a question of time (PR) and Google will double your categories.

If you make a redesign (where you should change (all) detail links and category-path ) a solution could be a new setup. Than you can let the old categories in Google and only change important links like add and detail to the new format.
In the new format you should change than browse a little bit so you didn't get 100% double content. With this way you won't use old categories and you can use them as modern sitemaps.

One question from my site, because you use old detail links - do you have some links with so much reviews, that pagination is working ?
If yes, please can you send me a link ?

Regards
Frank