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    Default When is it Cheaper to Spend $450 rather than $99 ...?

    When is it Cheaper to Spend $450 rather than $99...? A potential INDEXU customer recently asked me whether he should purchase INDEXU or a competing product costing $450 - 4 and a half times the cost of INDEXU.

    While I happen to really like INDEXU, here is what I told him:

    While the "knee-****" answer is that it is always better to purchase the cheaper item, the real answer is not nearly so obvious.

    While you need to look at the cost of the product, there are other things to consider. For example, you don't buy a car when you need a truck even if the price of the car is much cheaper. And you don't buy a small truck if you need a big truck even if the price of the small truck is much cheaper,

    But there are no absolutes. If the car is cheap enough compared to the truck, you may decide that you can live with a car instead of a truck. And the same with a small truck compared to a large truck.

    And so it is with software. You don't buy a FAQ software program if you are building a links directory. And you don't buy a $99 software package to run DMOZ.

    So how do you chose the right links directory software? The focus of this post is not so much on the functionality and quality of the software but rather the cost of the software. There are many factors to consider and cost is just one of them.

    But what about the cost? When is it Cheaper to Spend $450 rather than $99...? A number of years ago, there was a costing method called the Life Cycle Cost ( LLC ). It made sense to me and I like to use it in situations like this.

    LLC says that the initial cost of item is only one part of the total cost of a item over the useful life of that product. As an example, let's say that you are going to purchase a refrigerator and are considering two well-know brands. Refrigerator A costs $400 and refrigerator B costs $500.

    Easy, right? You should purchase refrigerator A. But maybe not.

    Let's say that each refrigerator will last 10 years and that refrigerator A costs $50 per year to operate and refrigerator B cost $10 per year. So now the total cost of owning refrigerator A is $900 and the total cost of owning refrigerator B is $600. The LCC of refrigerator A is $900 vs the LLC of refrigerator B of $600. Ignoring the time value of money to keep this simple, now which is cheaper to purchase?

    Now the correct choice is to purchase the $500 refrigerator instead of the $400 refrigerator. How can you apply this to the purchase of links directory software.

    Let's say you are considering INDEXU which costs $99 and a leading competitor software that cost $450. On the basis of the initial costs, you would purchase INDEXU at $99. But if you consider the LLC, it may be cheaper to purchase the $450 software.

    Let's say that the $450 has lots of plugins which have a nominal (small) cost to buy. You need several of the plugins to effectively offer a "good" website to your websurfers.

    Let's say that INDEXU does not have these features or plugins. You have already determined that they are essential to your website ( "you need a big truck, not a small truck" ). If you want them, you are going to have to pay someone to write program MOD for INDEXU.

    If the cost of the MODs are less than say $350, you might decide to buy INDEXU. The LLC of INDEXU is less than $450. If the cost of the MODs are more than say $350, you might decide to buy the leading competitor. In that situation The LLC of INDEXU is more than $450.

    Use the Life Cycle Cost" ( LLC ) to help you decide the cost of each program. You may find that it is cheaper to purchase the more "expensive" program.



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    I'm agree with you. But that case is for extreme modification.
    If you're going to use for advance estore or classified ads, indexu could be expensive.

    But for more general use of link script, such as hotscripts, regional directory, yellow pages, i don't think you need to look for more plugin or mods. All is included and you get them all for $99

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    Quote Originally Posted by dody
    I'm agree with you. But that case is for extreme modification.
    If you're going to use for advance estore or classified ads, indexu could be expensive.
    well, I am not so sure about the "extreme modification" comment. I think this it is more a matter of the "right tool" for the job at hand.

    I would agree that you get a lot of features with INDEXU. but that is not the question. the real question is "which software will do that i need it to do...!"

    as for MODs, take a look at the MODs offered by a leading competitor ( about 130 as I count them! ):

    Bookmark
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    Newsletter New!
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    Duplicate_Check
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    Edit_case
    - Plugin can change the case of specific input field texts. You can specify which fields to check, to uppercase ALL or just First case of whole text, or lowercase all text.
    - Specific field texts can be changed even conditionally, for example you can lowercase a Description if there are more than 80% UPPERCASE letters.
    - Flexible, through simple admin config interface.
    - Seamless integration with LinksSQL
    - Debugging available (2 level)
    - Add page & Modify page now both are supported
    EmailChecker
    Error_Jump
    Error_Jump_Articles
    Expire_Links
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    This plugin will "slice and dice" the values held in Full_Name, into sub-sections...i.e;
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    * Country => England
    * State => West Sussex
    * Area => Rudgwick
    This gives you a lot more "targetting" power on your categoy.html template.
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    Thanks to mention it. It really a nice mods collection. We should start doing the same way

    No to offend, but most plugin there are not free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dody
    No to offend, but most plugin there are not free.
    true. so ask yourself this question: if one of the main competitors of INDEXU costs more for the basic version AND you still have to pay for some of the MODs, why are folks still buying it instead of INDEXU....???

    Well, we all know the reason so we won 't dwell on it here.



    PS: And make no mistake, that software is very, very popular and hugely successful. AND it is written in PERL...! ugh!!!
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    Indexu one of popular php link script. The competitor is the first link script among other ffa scripts at that time. I remember using their script in 1997-98 and i really like it, i know it very well too
    Then i decide to build my own link script written in php, and now it's known as indexu

    In overal, indexu may less popular, but it doesn't mean indexu is worse. We aim for their market from beginning, and we're in good progress stepping there. Just wait and see, i believe we could do far better than them.

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    Hello,

    1) Indexu did not cost me $99.00, if I add the time it cost me to apply the mods, the time it cost me to fix some of the problem myself, the time and money it cost me to have third party programmers to work on Index it is by fare the most expensive application I ever bought.
    2) Paying a lot for an application is not always the guaranty of good support or good product, over 8 years ago I bought an Auction application, I did pay $1500.00. The thing never work, I had no support. I was so bad that I did replace it with a free script.
    3) Of course the support provide here may not seem all that great but the one provide by K-Link (they remove the public forum so new buyers would know the the complaints), phpBazar (they remove the public forum and now their applications are free) are worst, much worst. I will add that it is getting better in Indexu. One more thing, Dody may have some time delete some of our posting but the forum is still here we are still free to say what we think and for that alone I am very thankful.
    4) So it was more expensive than I thought it would be, it was more difficult to do than I thought it would be and took more time than I had to spare but I did meet some great individual, learn a lot, and my site is now working as it should. Look at the result, my site is more popular than some commercial site which spend 100 time as much as I did. In a way it was fun and challenging and that count for something, I think that people like us do not really want something working 100% out of the box, we want to play with it, make it do what it was not made to do. Be honest you could have afford a much more expensive application but would you have had as much fun?
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    I would pretty much agree with all that you say, aladdin1. While I think support could have been better here at INDEXU, i agree that other software offers much worse support.

    Except for the leading links directory software. Support for that software is much better than INDEXU. I truely believe that had dody continued the level of support that existed in the summer of 2003 and done so for the past 3 years, INDEXU would be the number one links directory software, or at the very least, the next best alternative.

    I'm not sure what dody did with those 2 and 1/2 years (the coding from v3.2 to v5 may have taken about 3 or 4 months).

    It's just a shame. Oh, well...



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    for directory purpose, indexu is very powerful and easy to use.

    I have sold some of my database for directory. Everytime, I suggest them to buy indexu here to support the database.

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    I've been playing around with indexu for the last few weeks and I like it.
    It has some very nice features, especially from an SEO / monetisation perspective, though it is a bit lacking when it comes to link management compared to some of its more expensive competitors

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    though it is a bit lacking when it comes to link management compared to some of its more expensive competitors
    Will you tell me more about this?

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    If I was getting 200 submissions a day it would be quite painful to manage with IndexU. With product X I can scroll down through x number of links per page (I choose) and decide to accept, deny or leave alone on a per link basis.
    From what I've seen of IndexU that kind of thing would be impossible

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    Ah ... it will be available in next release. It has been implemented. We've added toggle all on/off the checkbox.
    http://nicecoder.com/svn/index.php?act=changeset&id=327

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    Default what are the competitor software you are talking about?

    Please can someone tell me what are the softwares that you are all talking about?
    I would like to compare them before i make a decision.

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    Well, let someone else here answer your question.

    I was a fan of the expensive $450 script at years back in 1999. But it was not enough for me so i build my own

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