3.2 vs 3.2E?

[Johnny Doomo]

1. So basically the $200 contains the most important mods? Including the speed boost you just mentioned?

2. All these mods that you have added are already coded in correct? If somebody buys 3.2E they wont need to manually add these mods right?

3. My main concern is that when I buy and use third party software such as this, I don't update it regularly. For example, I am running a 2.0x version of VB for my forums right now. I have hacked it up so much, I am not going to completely redo it. This is the main reason why I am so concerned with getting as many features in the base installation of IndexU as I possibly can. So I was hoping to get a list of the mods that aren't included in the $200 option. This way I can look and see which ones I need, or think I will be using in the future as it is very unlikely that I will update to 4.0 or even to a 5.0 My index site will likely run this same base installation for at least 4 to 5 years if not longer before I will get around to completely redoing it.

Can you please give a list of mods that won't be included in the $200 package of 3.2E and their price points?

Thanks.

[dody]

Also, dody, do you plan on running any type of special soon? Say 30% (or smaller) off on the 4th anniversary on November 11th?

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[esm]

Can you please give a list of mods that won't be included in the $200 package of 3.2E and their price points?

As my priority right now is the release of v3.2E, this is something I might consider after its release if there is enough interest in it.

Until then , I could suggest you take a couple of minutes and print the available mod list and the installed v3.2E list. Then cross off the available list those that appear on the installed list. Once you have crossed off all the installed mods, you will have those mods not installed.

1. So basically the $200 contains the most important mods? Including the speed boost you just mentioned?

Correct.

2. All these mods that you have added are already coded in correct? If somebody buys 3.2E they wont need to manually add these mods right?

Correct.

[Johnny Doomo]

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Hey Dody,

How long will that special offer be good for? I just want to know if I have a tight time limit to decide if Indexu is for me or not. If you could let me know, it would really help me out.

Thanks.

[Johnny Doomo]

OK esm,

Here's my new list of questions since you made me do all the hard work :P

What do ALL the following mods do? (I would like to know what each one does)

Automatically transfer to another page after voting ($15)
Display keywords searched in public page ($15)
Dynamic Menu MOD ($15)
Editors pick on index page ($15)
Last 5 added links ($15)
Require user to sign-in to see details ($15)
Review links on the index page ($15)
Show new ($15)
Show hot ($15)
Show updated ($15)
Show pick ($15)
Show top_rated ($15)
Show all ($15)
Subcats on separate lines and with totals v3.1 ($15)
Top 10 reviews on index page ($15)
Top 5 by hits on index page ($15)
Disabling Login for Reviews ($15)
Check for duplicate links during validation ($15)
Display a list of links only to link owner for update while
bypassing resource id search input ($20)
Hack to add the link ID to link search page ($15)
Links in Multiple columns MOD ($15)
Include Info ( hot links, who is on line, stats etc ) on index page ($20)

These are all the mods that aren't included in the $200 fee and I would now like to know what each ones allows me to do so that I know if I would like to purchase them.

Thanks.

[esm]

OK esm,

Here's my new list of questions since you made me do all the hard work :P

Sorry that 2 minutes of work was hard for you...

What do ALL the following mods do? (I would like to know what each one does)

Automatically transfer to another page after voting ($15)
Display keywords searched in public page ($15)
Dynamic Menu MOD ($15)
Editors pick on index page ($15)
Last 5 added links ($15)
Require user to sign-in to see details ($15)
Review links on the index page ($15)
Show new ($15)
Show hot ($15)
Show updated ($15)
Show pick ($15)
Show top_rated ($15)
Show all ($15)
Subcats on separate lines and with totals v3.1 ($15)
Top 10 reviews on index page ($15)
Top 5 by hits on index page ($15)
Disabling Login for Reviews ($15)
Check for duplicate links during validation ($15)
Display a list of links only to link owner for update while
bypassing resource id search input ($20)
Hack to add the link ID to link search page ($15)
Links in Multiple columns MOD ($15)
Include Info ( hot links, who is on line, stats etc ) on index page ($20)

These are all the mods that aren't included in the $200 fee and I would now like to know what each ones allows me to do so that I know if I would like to purchase them.

Thanks.

Some of these listed above are actually included with v3.2E like the: Show all, Check for duplicate links during validation, etc. Actually, all the "Show..." MODs are stand alone MODs that can be used just by uploading the file to the sever and including the hyperlink in the menu. The Show New and Shop Updated do require a little code changes.

You will find most of the MODs described here
http://www.indexuhelp.com/forum/inde...read&frm_id=21

or

here
http://www.nicecoder.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=8

Sorry they are not in one concise place but there are only 6 pages in the Nicecoder forum show it should go pretty quickly.

You will find that by reading the posts, you will have a better understanding fo the MOD than by reading a quick one-liner dashed off by me.

[Johnny Doomo]

Some of these listed above are actually included with v3.2E like the: Show all, Check for duplicate links during validation, etc. Actually, all the "Show..." MODs are stand alone MODs that can be used just by uploading the file to the sever and including the hyperlink in the menu. The Show New and Shop Updated do require a little code changes.

Why the ^%& did you think I wanted you to make me a list? What good are those comparison lists if there are other mods that exist in the package that aren't even on the list????

What I am TRYING to do is find out what mods packages I need to buy, but I can't do that when some of them are already included in the $200 base price and some aren't even on the list for me to cross out to find out which "al a cart" mods are already included too.

I DON'T WANT TO BE PAYING DOUBLE FOR MODS! Just because they were left off a list. Now, do you see why I wanted you to create a list of what was included?

I will check out those links you mentioned, but I find it hard to believe anybody will purchase 3.2E without it being nicely organized onto a single page of what it includes. Nobody wants to visit 4+ forum pages to see prices, comparisons, and to find out what they need and/or want to buy. You need to organize all the data for 3.2E the second you finish modding it.

I am only still looking at 3.2E because I stick with the base software I install for 4+ years, but regular people that update when a new version comes out, I find unlikely will be willing search these threads and do the cross comparisons I have. [/rant]

[esm]

Now, do you see why I wanted you to create a list of what was included?

but I have had such a list for some time. It appears several times thoughout this post. Here it is again: http://www.indexuhelp.com/forum/inde...=tree&goto=872.

As I said in an earlier post, I have probably created a few hundred MODs/hacks for INDEXU most of which will not be included in the v3.2E. I doubt that I will will spend the time to produce a list of all of them and describing in detail what each does just for you to see if you might need them.

You should decide what you need and then see if it is in either version of INDEXU. I have no idea what you need. You should decide that and spend the time to research the products you are considering to see it they will do that and if not what might be done to give you what you need.

Not all features are listed for a peice of software and certainly few if any list what they might have included as a feature but left it out...

[Johnny Doomo]

I can't see into the future to know what features I will need 4 years from now. What I can do, is see what has been created and is available NOW for me to buy. I guess I thought you were interested in selling your work though, not hidding it in some thread where nobody will ever see it and buy it.

[esm]

I guess I thought you were interested in selling your work though, not hidding it in some thread where nobody will ever see it and buy it.

Well, they are not hidden. A description of each is posted on my website and/or this site and most of them are in the Hacks/MODs forum - I have made an effort over the past year and half to make sure I put them there or at least a reference to the relevant thread if it is in a different forum.

I could say something like "if your are not willing to invest an hour or two and read thru those 6-7 pages of MODs, then maybe you are not interested in buying the enhancement." Instead, I'll say this. If you take the one to two hours to read thru those 6-7 pages of MODs, you will be rewarded beyond your wildest expectations. Not only will you learn more about the MODs that are actually there by reading the various posts by folks but you will also find a treasure of other MODs that I did not create and are not in v3.2E. They may be just the MOD you need for your site or they may spark a idea that you need a particular feature for your links site. They will certainly give you an idea of what other people, who may have been in similar situations, wanted for their site ( or at least thought they wanted ).

I didn't ask you to look 4 years in the future. What I did say was for you to determine what features you want - in the here and now. That way you will be able to compare what you need to what is available - either in INDEXU or one of the other links programs. THEN, you can make an intelligent choice.

There are lots of ways to get information helpful in deciding what you need. Then, once you have defined you needs, the decision becomes easy.

Or we could just continue to "jaw" back and forth with you telling me how unhelpful I am by not providing the information in a easy to understand way and me telling you that if you want the info bad enough, it is there, you will just have to spend a some time to get.

[Johnny Doomo]

Yes, that would be helpful... if I was looking to actually install any mods. The only reason I was even interested in your mods was that they were pre-installed. Unfortunantly it will take a lot longer to find out which mods are yours in the mods forum, link them to if they are installed or not, make sure to check for each mod on all four or so forum pages to see if they already exist and if I've already checked them off, then report back to you to find out if you offer them pre-installed with 3.2E.

You start off by telling me compare this two pages, then after I compare you tell me there are more mods on a different page and that some that I listed during the compare are included. MY POINT is that your info is very unorganized.

Here is what I want to know. After comparing the first two lists you told me to compare here is what I have left over. There is a section for $20 that has these mods that (according to those two pages) aren't in the base $200 package.

Check for duplicate links during validation ($15)
Display a list of links only to link owner for update while
bypassing resource id search input ($20)
Hack to add the link ID to link search page ($15)
Links in Multiple columns MOD ($15)
Include Info ( hot links, who is on line, stats etc ) on index page ($20)

I want to know WHICH of those ARE included in the $200 base price. That is a pack that you are charging $20 for. I DON'T WANT TO PAY $20 IF ALL THOSE MODS ARE INCLUDED IN THE BASE $200 PRICE!

Second, here is another list of mods that are part of a $15 package:

Automatically transfer to another page after voting ($15)
Display keywords searched in public page ($15)
Dynamic Menu MOD ($15)
Editors pick on index page ($15)
Last 5 added links ($15)
Require user to sign-in to see details ($15)
Review links on the index page ($15)
Show new ($15)
Show hot ($15)
Show updated ($15)
Show pick ($15)
Show top_rated ($15)
Show all ($15)
Subcats on separate lines and with totals v3.1 ($15)
Top 10 reviews on index page ($15)
Top 5 by hits on index page ($15)
Disabling Login for Reviews ($15)

I would like to know which of those are included into the base price as they weren't according to the two lists YOU told me to check.

Can you do this for me so I am not paying for either of these two al a cart packages when I don't need to?

BTW what type of support will you be offering on 3.2E? I am a little concerned if it's this hard to get an answer out of you as a simple question of what mods ARE and what mods AREN'T included in a $200 base price, how hard is it going to be when if I purchased all these if I had a question? Will you just give me a link to some forum and tell me to figure it out, it shouldn't take more than a few minutes, only later to link me to four other links and say to check those too?

I simply want to know what options I have from the creator of the software and a regular at these forums, instead of searching through a forum I just came across.

I am not interested in EVERY mod you have made, I am ONLY interested in the ones that I can get preinstalled, so after installing IndexU I am set and don't have to mess with installing mods.

Can you help?

[esm]

If you really read what you have posted, you have answered your own question about which MODs are included in v3.2E and which are not. And you have answered two or three times, I was being polite by not calling it to your attention and thinking maybe it would dawn on you but I guess not. So, here is what you have said, and I quote you:

"After comparing the first two lists you told me to compare here is what I have left over." That means that you have looked at two lists, one of available MODs and one with MODs installed on v3.2E. You have crossed off the available list all the ones on the installed list. Then you state: "There is a section for $20 that has these mods that (according to those two pages) aren't in the base $200 package." Well, you have just answered the question that you keep asking me! THOSE THAT ARE NOT CROSSED OFF ARE NOT INSTALLED. I'll repeat what you wrote: "these mods that (according to those two pages) aren't in the base $200 package."

I said before you compared the two that what was left over would obviously not be included. I will comfirm that for you: Whatever you have left over after comparing the two is not installed in v3.2E. If the above list is what you have left over, then they are not installed on v3.2E. And in looking thru the list, yes, they are not installed.

You have answered your own question. I will confirm your answer.

As for support v3.2E, I'm thinking of offering lousy support. So you may just want to purchase the basic version of INDEXU V3.2 and get support from the owner of INDEXU ( for the regular readers of this forum, I know you are laughing your ass off at that comment!!! But don't let the cat out of the bag! We can drag this out a little longer and get a few more laughs from it. The forums have been a little dull lately and we need a good laugh ).

Now that I think about it, I think you should purchase the basic version. I'll be nice and provide the link to the order page: http://www.nicecoder.com/order.php or http://forums.edevcafe.com/viewtopic.php?t=52775. Then you can take your needs assessment ( you do have one, right? I did suggest that that should be one of the first things you do BEFORE you start evaluating the available software ) oooppps, I digress. Then you can take your needs assessment and hire a programmer to tailor it to you needs. That way, you can be assured that you do not have to mess with it for the next 4+ years.

Oh, and one last thing. I am a shyster. I will sell you a MOD that is already installed in your software and not blink an eye. I am so ruthless that I will sell it to you 2, 3 or 4 times just so I can get more of your money. Yep, you don't want to pruchase v3.2E. Damn, you have found me out. I was so counting on selling those MODs 3 and 4 times to you. Man, you are one sharp dude. Can't pull the wool over your eyes. I guess I won't be able to purchase that Porsche I had my eye on after double selling you those $15 MODs.

Well, I have had too much phun with this post. And now that Johnny won't be buying my software along with a couple of unnecessary MODs, I won't even be able to afford a couple of beers today.

PS: and it is time for you regulars to stop laughing. Remember, this is serious.

PSS: Johnny, let us know how your purchase turns out.

PSSS: I already own a Porsche. A gold 1985 944 (first half). Damn thing will do 125 mph in 4th gear with 5th gear still to go.

[Johnny Doomo]

Hey <kind person> I quote:

"Some of these listed above are actually included with v3.2E like the: Show all, Check for duplicate links during validation, etc. Actually, all the "Show..."

THE MODS YOU SAY ARE INCLUDED WEREN'T ON THE LISTS I COMPARED <kind person>. So quit acting like you are all smart when you gave me the wrong <removed> directions.

Thanks for being a <kind person>,

If dody wants his money I'm sure you wont mind paying him for pushing his customers away. bye bye <kind person>!

[esm]

ahhh, the true Johnny finally shows himself for what he really is.....maybe you can steal the MODs too...

[ezykiwi]

Such Foul langauge .... someone didnt get their nappys changed this morning..

The fact you downloaded a pirated version of indexu is pointless... because.... you wont have any support or updates.... plus... im sure ive read 3.2e is for registered users...

I might be wrong, ive been wrong before... but no need to spit the dummy mate... this is a happy forum for users who want to help each other... not for some moronic idiot to swear like a sailor in a pub brawl.... if you dont like someones answers.. then dont ask questions... simple as that...